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King George Red With Noticeable Error Is It Common Or Special ?

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Posted 12/28/2018   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Aussie Al

You're fortunate to know Lance Skinner, I only know of him and that he is Geoff Kellow's close friend; I believe he is now into his 80s and still has quite an impressive collection (going by what Geoff told me).

I bought his collection of 1938-56 kangaroo's (nearly 4,000 of them, one sheet consists of 640 coiled stamps) that he started to research in 1952, I have his research notes as well, plus his unfinished book which I am now tasked to complete, I'll also be adding many stamps in colour as well as their plating.

Rob

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Posted 12/28/2018   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No it isn't the pride of my collection there are a few favourites of mine but none are my pride, can you do better, what I saw of your collection in the other forum, it is obvious that you cannot. My entire collection has been expertly appraised (not by personal appraisal which you had done), my collections market value is considerable (42 years of specialised collecting, and like I said the stamps are only a very small part of an album of rare stamps and all are expertly certified, not personally or by false catalogue value).

I have every single Australian stamp from 1937-2018, including all the shades (many unlisted) and all the important varieties, in the KGV side faces, all mine are proofs and scarce inks, including experimental inks, some of my KGV stamps have been uploaded on many forums, including this one.

Also can you provide documented evidence that the stamps I show are common, or is that one of your personal "expert" appraisals. Here is a little more information on the 6 stamps, all but one is in mint unhinged condition, and all but one is well centred to superbly centred.

1. 1935 1/- ANZAC PROOF. Only 160 exist
2. 1938 Very early cracked plate. Only 1 exist
3. 1938 £1 Coronation Specimen. 2,860 were issued, less than 500 are in this superb centring, the centring is pivotal to the value
4. 1950 £2 Coat-of-Arms on very thin paper. Only a few hundred exist
5. 1950 £2 Coat-of-Arms with roller flaw on very thin paper. Only 2 exist
6. 1959 5d QEII with imperforation between stamp and stamp margin. Only 10 exist

I have others with very low printing and all have certificates with the rarity status. I'm also a collector of a very specialised collection, that's probably a new word for you.

Here is my "Robes" collection compared to your overpriced 1948 tinted 5/- "Robes", are these your interpretation of a "common collection."


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And how many times do I have to explain myself that I knew that the jenny was not real l. Not the brightest spark how do you think I know about the fbi reward money I knew it was a rep all along perfs clearly show it so just drop it rob it's getting beyond humorous you won't post the posts I made about making a joke about the stamp but repeatedly post that post.


It's not what I read in another forum you got booted from, and I won't clutter this forum with images of the posts the members from another forum repeatedly explained to you it was a fake. You tried to pass it off as the real McCoy, hence the three comments I mentioned from that site, of course there were many others, and all doubted your far-fetched story of it being real, you were not booted off for joking, you were booted off because of your arrogance, insults and fabrications.

This is what I'll be doing, I'll be taking that "tin shed" image to the club for the experts to assess, and then I'll be taking the experts comments and a screen shot of your comments and the comments of others from the other site about your "valuable stamps" and I say "valuable" loosely to the person at Renniks.

I'll also be showing him your fictitious catalogue value and selling prices of the block of 4, 5/- coronation stamps along with the real market and catalogue value, we are going to have a very nice chit-chat about you and your "valuable stamps".

And to make sure he sees the information very clearly, I'll be taking along one of my iPads.


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Wow we have to wait till January 21 now and your getting others involved too how comical and how interesting this one red stamp has made such a kefufle . Let's just get Alan's opinion "promised" which you have so far failed to do on your first attempt.

STOP MAKING THIS TOPIC A HOT TOPIC FOR THE WRONG REASON

Talk to Alan along with proof like a recording or something so everyone doesn't think your dishonest and save your rep


Yes, we will have to wait until January 21, which is when I can show the KGV side-face "tin shed" to the renowned experts in the business (everyone is on holidays or I would have rang them and emailed them the image for a quick response, and yes, as I am not a KGV expert and I know those that are, it is the best way to identify the stamp, your personal expertising and valuation of the stamp is of no value (which is ridiculous and far-fetched to say the least).

And it's "kerfuffle" not "kefufle".

The "red stamp" you are referring to isn't creating anything comical, but the end result is going to show the value of your words, otherwords, the strength of your credibility.

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STOP MAKING THIS TOPIC A HOT TOPIC FOR THE WRONG REASON

I don't think so, I believe what I am going to do is for all the right reasons.

No-one on any website that I correspond with thinks I'm dishonest (in contrast to how they see you, an honest person would not be suspended the way you were), Many have asked for my advice in identifying stamps world-wide, and I will continue to share my 42 years of experience with other collectors, if I need clarification I will refer the stamps(s) to other experts; so you thinking I'm not an expert is not going to cause me any loss of sleep.

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Let's just get Alan's opinion "promised" which you have so far failed to do on your first attempt.

What failed first attempt, I haven't attempted anything, I will be taking the image of the common worthless stamp you believe is worth equivalent to winning the lottery, to experts in that particular field who actually issue certification papers that are accepted world-wide; and then I will be going to Renniks with the information I obtained at the club and will be having a nice chat with him.

You had very similar arguments and given very similar insults to those in other forums, so it is going to be satisfying for me to show others you are not to be trusted.

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So please make ur next post about the king red stamp follow up with Alan along with proof you had a conversation with him. Because I will follow it up and I can since I do have his sons mobile number

I do not need to record him, I won't lie and what I will upload will be the facts, so follow-up it will be a learning experience for you; and once I put this to bed, I hope the moderators do the same as what the other forum had so rightfully done – remove you. There are novices who find our sharing of expertise valuable as do others who are more knowledgeable expanding on what we know with each other; no-one needs to have their forum tainted with fabrications.

And I will be very concerned that novices will believe your prices and get robbed, which in return would cause ill-repute within this forum, a tag that stamp forums can do well without.

You are not an expert, I read your "life story" and how you " inherited" the stamps worth kazillions, nice story, too bad that is all it is – a story.

So there will be no more talk from me unless you can show an uploaded image of the page from the catalogue that mentions the 1948 tinted block of 4 "Robes" is valued at $482, and if you can't then the next time I respond to this thread will be on the night of January 21, 2019.

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Edited by Rob041256 - 12/29/2018 01:07 am
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Posted 12/28/2018   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mr Stampede to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you need a Kleenex

Prove all you want just don't make yourself look dishonest doing so by going back on your word which you have already done now twice and redirected it on more than one occasion
Your changing your story to many times and stick to your word that's all I ask

Good luck with trying to trash me on here I can see you have turned it into a obsession

Try and enjoy your holidays Robby
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Edited by Mr Stampede - 12/29/2018 12:03 am
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Posted 12/29/2018   12:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You'd think if someone was a good personal friend of yours, You would at least have there mobile number .

No one's going to put me in place what happened is what happened I have not lied about anything trying to dig up dirt on me and attack me personally on my living arrangement shows how desperate some people will get to save what rep they have on here there's no place for it here leave it on boards down under . This is a wonderful forum reason why I chose to move and share my collection here.

I'm looking forward when I come back from my air bnb retreat (jan 3) to post more of my stamps for others to enjoy


No-one is causing any Ad hominem, and I needn't have any mobile number when a visit would suffice quite nicely, you can say more and show things that one cannot do with a mobile. No-one on this forum is calling you a liar, but I'm sure the evidence is not too far away.

No-one here is desperate, desperate for what? You have transferred your attitude and far-fetched stories from that particular "down under" forum to this forum; you should practice what you preach.

This wonderful forum would actually like to see your collection scanned not photographed by a mobile. January 3 is 5 days away, it should give you time to actually scan your collection (use 600dpi), especially the "certified" ones with their certificates, I can then show the images to experts I know, and yes I do know people who can tell if any of your US and Commonwealth stamps are of any worth, especially the Commonwealth stamps, considering I'm a member of the "Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW".
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Posted 12/29/2018   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mr Stampede - I would love to see scans of your stamps.
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Posted 12/29/2018   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 12/29/2018   12:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No need to worry, as I have never been dishonest to be able to look dishonest, and can you quote anything I have posted that shows I have as you say "went back on my word more than once". I may have thought more on an approach and have decided on a way that would be more beneficial to the purpose I intend, but never would I go back on my word.

I always stick to what I say, and what I am going to do is not an obsession but to provide an expert assessment on all the stamps you show anywhere on this form and any other forum you choose to annoy, we cannot allow people making silly untrue observations about your collection, can we; so therefore, as I am for others, I am here to give my 42 years of experience and will if necessary acquire the help of registered expertisers to verify or to debunk the rarity and value of your collection.

Of course you have proven that you have absolutely no knowledge of Australian stamps by saying that the very rare and extremely rare stamps I have shown are common, and all I can say to that is

I can confidently say the same about every other stamp you may have, and to self-expertise and value your own stamps and using fictitious catalogue values to support your ridiculous selling price (a good example is the 5/- coronation) will be believed, come on, be serious, do you really think stamp forums are filled with idiots, Stamp forums have members who are adept collectors and others we help to understand their collection and to safeguard them from being conned.

It is rubbish accusing me of trying to trash you, I've been a member of this forum for just over 2 years and I gave my word that I will help all members the best way I can, so I'll be helping you have your kazillion dollar collection expertised and at the same time showing someone the importance of not telling furphies.

Can you give me the name of the catalogue that mentions the 1948 tinted 5/- coronation block of 4 being $482, or is asking for verification trashing.

And yes, I will be enjoying the holidays; I'll be spending the next 3 days partying with friends.

And of course, silly of me not to mention
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Edited by Rob041256 - 12/29/2018 01:35 am
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Posted 12/29/2018   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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scan ??? I dont see no scan all I see is some words someone typed
Last time I remember a scan is a picture from a scanner


Here is a better view of the images you did not see, although they were big enough to see anyway.


Your image from the other forum showing the fictitious catalogue value and your preposterous asking price.


The real value with the required selvedge with imprint, yours has no selvedge, therefore no imprint, which would devalue your block of 4 to about $60, and because there is a white background, one could suspect damage being hidden unless you can prove otherwise by using a black background, and showing the rear as well.


And the page from the current Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue showing the current catalogue value. The 2 stars = mint unhinged and 1 star = mint lightly hinged but they must have imprints.
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Edited by Rob041256 - 12/29/2018 01:45 am
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I think the OP needs another reference. Here is a SCAN of my 1995 ACSC reference for 213. Horribly out-of-date, but it does confirm the existence of 213z, the the By Authority Imprint, for a value in the range of $35. It has now increased, of course, to the value in Rob's post.


I now wonder if the OP thinks they have 213zb, the No Imprint version? If so, they need to re-read the description and understand that the block of four must have all of the selvage, and that the Imprint must be completely clear ... non-existent. A good scan would help.

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Posted 12/29/2018   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mr Stampede to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Morning !!

Yes requests shall get requests

Okay I brought a album with me to my air bnb retreat I am doing it now best I can do is photos atm until I head back to sydney
So heres a few pages of the Oz section of that
Stay tuned inwill take some photos of some pages until I get back then I will post some real scans


Enjoy
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Edited by Mr Stampede - 12/29/2018 5:45 pm
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Posted 12/29/2018   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All looks like your average garden variety so far .
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I don't know about that. There are a few good ones hiding in that group. Condition is everything, of course, but at least a few winners. Once you have a better scanner or photo system, you should post some of the better ones ... and try to get them right-side-up.

I didn't see the Robes block in that group. Did you bring it with you?
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Posted 12/29/2018   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mr Stampede to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No I didn't bring them with me unfortunately but I will be back Jan 3 from my getaway holiday will scan better ones

Average garden variety ? Hey yeah okay al whatever floats your boat

I got many more in other albums back in Sydney will post them soon best I can do for now with my galaxy note 9

I uploaded uses the photo optimized but still comes put with wrong orientation

Anyways hope you guys enjoy the few I brag with me
Thanks for your feedback partime
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Edited by Mr Stampede - 12/29/2018 8:33 pm
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Posted 12/29/2018   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Average garden variety ? Hey yeah okay al whatever floats your boat


Ok then educate me point out the better stamps & tell me what makes them better.
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