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Posted 11/10/2021   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Klauskla to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hello! I found this "stamp" amongst the old collection from my uncle and I don't know what it is...
Since I couldn't find it on google or ebay, it shouldn't even exist!

It has some real cancelations from London, but sure is no regular stamp. Can anybody help me?

Thanks a lot

Klaus
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Posted 11/10/2021   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum! Could it be a cut out from postal stationery?


Peter
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Posted 11/10/2021   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waddsbadds to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is definitely not a cut out from a postal stationery item, first, Great Britain never used this design on its postal stationery, and the wording does not indicate anything to do with either the purpose, i.e. postal use, or a monetary value. It appears to be a sort of spoof of a real stamp, the 1870 penny-halfpenny (or three halfpence as it says on the actual stamp) rose red, Stanley Gibbons number 51. The real stamp is perforated 14 although Gibbons lists an imperforate variety which is apparently extremely rare as it lists at 7500 pounds in unused condition, and a dagger in the used condition column indicates that the stamp is not known used. The wording on the three sides of the shield appear to be: "perforated" along the left side, "Brickets" or something similar along the top and "Nine…." possibly Nineties? Along the right side. My guess is some sort of advertising label made to look like a real stamp but with enough differences so that the maker wouldn't get into trouble
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Posted 11/10/2021   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klauskla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum! Could it be a cut out from postal stationery?

No, it is made of a very thinn paper, unlike postal stationeries
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Posted 11/10/2021   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klauskla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both.

I hoped for something a little more interesting then an advertisement...

Still I will keep it together with the real stamps!!

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Posted 11/10/2021   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It has some real cancelations from London,


How so?
Can you please indicate how a duplex of LONDON can be found with a "54?" 3-2-3 Killer

I's suggest it is a fabricated Pmk, A London CDS, and perhaps a SOUTHWELL 3-2-3 542 or similar killer.

A better image would have us, possibly solve your query.

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Posted 11/10/2021   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Might brickets be briquettes?

It says perforated and nine pence on either side of the Queen's head.

It looks like an advertising label, mocked up as a stamp.

Rod is correct. The postmark is fake.
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Posted 11/10/2021   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Waddsbadds and Bobby de la Rue. A bricket is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as


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A small block of compressed coal dust or other combustible material used as fuel; especially a typically pillow-shaped block of compressed fuel for household use, such as in a fireplace or barbecue.


I wonder if "pence" is something like "pces" for pieces or even "pieces."

The check letters ar "T" and "E." This might have been a brand of perforated brickets sold in pack of nine. Alternatively, it might have been the initials of the producer.
I think it was a wrapper (packing) and not an advertising label.
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Posted 11/10/2021   4:18 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/10/2021   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Geoff, that link does not appear to exist.
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Posted 11/10/2021   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klauskla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I am aware this is some kind of fake. I was wondering what kind of stamp ( or fake ) it is, since I couldn't any references on the internet.
I'm pretty sure "perforated brickets" is correct, but what does that mean?
And I don't know the british cancellations, so I have no clue about the meanings. Maybe even "...DON" does not mean London??
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Posted 11/10/2021   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Klauskla, I quoted the Oxford English Dictionary's definition of "bricket." This had holes in it, increasing the surface that could burn.

As for the stamp on which it is based as seen on Stanley Gibbons' website:

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Posted 11/10/2021   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 11/10/2021   4:55 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK - not sure what I did with it! It was just to a Google books copy of an ancient US publication about the worldwide briquette industry.
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Posted 11/11/2021   05:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klauskla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You, Rod. I guess you nailed it, it should be a cinderella from a briquet producer. In Brazil we don't use briquetts ( no need :) ), so I really never did see one and don't know how they are sold.
Just another question: are there perforated briquets??

I will keep my "stamp" just for fun, as it is worthless. Unless there is anyone here interested in Cinderellas. I'll be glad to send it.
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Posted 11/11/2021   05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Just another question: are there perforated briquets??

Hi Klaus,
there certainly are, curiously, Australia the hot country,
we get really chilly nights / winters
and Wood burning stoves are very popular.

Briquettes come in a vast array of designs, albeit, perforated would not be common or desired here, the more dense the block, the longer it lasts in the wood stove.
One here, can also buy your own personal briquette maker, fro old newspapers.

I have worked out, I save about 50% of my power bill by using an inverter air conditioner (c $2000) against burning wood in a stove (c$5000)
Which is a saving for the climate as well.
(also no dust for the stamp collection)

Certainly keep your piece, it is fascinating piece of Ephemera.
Try not to discard any pieces like this, there is always someone
who would collect them. (It is not worthless, the worth lies in its existence and interest to history scholars)

Postage stamps at that period would have been a fascinating to the public, hence the use in advertising.

From my searches, it may be the only one in the world surviving,
consider that
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