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1860's Antique Cdv Civil War Era Photo Zanesville Ohio Interesting Single R5c Margin Copy Revenue

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Posted 07/17/2025   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I look at lots of material on ebay for many different reasons at time my "this my be good" radar goes off. Such is the case here. However, I have no willingness to expand into this "on paper revenue" collecting area.

It is currently listed at $25, with auto offer at 15% off. Listing title is as above to and through, "Interesting."

So my real question is are margin singles such as this interesting or even difficult to find "on cover "





The lower left perforation looks folded and can easily be laid flat again.

Also once some poster responds with the Scott # for the stamp I will edit the title to include the Scott number. If the reply is within 23 hours or less.
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Posted 07/17/2025   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not found every day, but seen often enough so as not to be thought of as rare. My experience is that most revenue collectors would not make a big deal out of it unless they were into plating.
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Posted 07/17/2025   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Catalog number is R5c.
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Posted 07/18/2025   05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Flightle_Bee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good job the waistcoat's cut on the bias, else he'd look like he'd escaped from somewhere. Probably blue, as early film was very sensitive to that part of the spectrum. Lawyer? Snake-oil salesman?
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Posted 07/18/2025   07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly a teacher. The book was a deliberate placement.
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Posted 07/18/2025   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect that the coat was black.
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Posted 07/18/2025   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BTW-$25 is too much. $5 is much more realistic.
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Posted 07/18/2025   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmz5723 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am new to both CDV's and revenues, very new actually, as in 2 weeks. When I first discovered that revenue stamps were required on photographs during the two year period in the mid-1860's, I began searching ebay to see what I could find, setting my sights on CDV's with some type of backmark from the photography studio, and revenue stamps which exhibit good color and centering, with either a nice pen cancel or handstamp. I found that it is not that hard to find what I was looking for, but the pricing is all over the place, ranging from just under $5 to over $100, depending on the seller. I think that $5-$10 is a more reasonable price for any of these with revenues, except the ones that have a civil war soldier on them, those seem to go for much more.
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Posted 07/18/2025   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmz5723 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
" So my real question is are margin singles such as this interesting or even difficult to find on cover "


I think I have now seen three margin singles in a week on CDV's, after looking at many hundreds of items, so not that common. I find them interesting, but finding a pair of revenues on a CDV with attached margin would be even more interesting.
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Posted 07/18/2025   10:10 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CDVs are fascinating, as there are so many different aspects that are interesting and that can impact scarcity and value:

* The stamp
* Plate varieties
* The cancel
* The photographer/studio
* The state or city where the photographer was located
* Subject matter of the photo

I am by no means a specialist in the area, but I have friends who have exhibited on the topic and we've discussed aspects of the subject in depth.

Examples in my collection:

https://revenue-collector.com/cgi-b...archType=CDV

(far too many to show here)
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Posted 07/18/2025   1:37 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the common revenue stamp on a CDV, I think the $5 is a reasonable amount.

As revenuecollector mentioned, there are a number of factors that can influence the value. As for the cancel, varieties can include pre-cancels, hand-stamped tied, colored cancels. Another factor can be bisects (for example a 2c / bisected 2c pair intended to pay the 3c tax).
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Posted 07/18/2025   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmz5723 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revenuecollector,
When you said "examples in my collection", I would have been thankful to see a few, I never imagined I would get an exhibit of them, lol. I only got through about a third of them and had to go do other things, but I have to say, you pretty much checked all my boxes on the kinds of CDV's I would be thrilled to find. I will need to spend time later today looking at the rest, and then I likely will have some comments or questions about some of them. THANK YOU!
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Posted 07/18/2025   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmz5723 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
For the common revenue stamp on a CDV, I think the $5 is a reasonable amount.


Common would be those stamps cataloging for about a buck or less I would assume?
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Posted 07/18/2025   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
R18c cats $9, and it is still not worth more then $7.50 on a photo unless it has a double transfer, or is one of the valuable photographers cancels, or is a soldier. On the other hand, even an inexpensive 4 cent or 5 cent stamp on a photo is worth more.
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Edited by revcollector - 07/18/2025 3:30 pm
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Posted 07/18/2025   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmz5723 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a CDV which is "nothing special", with a common stamp, but the stamp is clean, has a simple initialed and dated manuscript cancel, or even just an "X" on it, but has virtually perfect centering, how much value does it add over and above what the CDV would normally sell for with a poorly centered stamp? The reason I ask is that it seems the vast majority of first issue revenues that I see are poorly centered.
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Posted 07/18/2025   6:55 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In all likelihood the centering of the stamp won't impact the overall value at all. Someone buying it on a CDV will typically be buying it for that aspect or a cancel, not the underlying grade of the stamp.

Centering and/or jumbo margins typically mean more to the collector putting the stamp in an album or submitting it for grading than someone who collects documents, CDVs, proprietary medicine wrappers, etc., where the actual usage or other aesthetic aspects are what matter.
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