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Opinions Please On Ebay Scott 189 "Webster" Listing

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Posted 07/10/2014   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ErrorsRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am considering the purchase of this stamp, but do not see any listing in my Scott Catalogue. Is this really a rare stamp?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271540987276....m1555.l2649
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Posted 07/10/2014   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Read this previous thread -- then decide:

https://goscf.com/t/38045
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Posted 07/10/2014   6:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorsRock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting thread wt1, however it still leaves me questioning whether or not this is really a double transfer. The stamp doe's seem to have all of the characteristic attributes of a double transfer.
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Posted 07/10/2014   6:43 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One would think, though, if it were so rare, and if it were to command such a premium, then it should be accompanied by a certificate.
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Posted 07/10/2014   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorsRock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but what if the stamp became worth $50,000.00 with a certificate?
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This seller has a history here. He seemed to think that many one-of-a-kind stamps landed at his house and he posted his 'discoveries' here in this forum. No matter how many people, with decades of experience, tried to help him he seemed bound and determined to list all the 'newly discovered' rarities for very large amounts of money. I suppose if you want to part with your money, get his stamps, send them for a cert, and then pray that he will indeed return your money when they come back not as he has them described; go for it.

Coincidently this fellow either quit or was asked to leave this forum just the other day so he isn't here to defend himself but good news is that he, like you, is from Canada. So if you get into a legal battle with him you will be in the same jurisdiction.
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caveat emptor. In my opinion, I see no evidence of a double impression. What if it becomes worth $20 with a certificate?
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorsRock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not see any evidence of a double impression either. I believe this is a double transfer not double impression. So my question really is if this is a rare double transfer from a late re-entry of the American Bank Note Company what could the possible value be?
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ErrorsRock....BUY IT!
Its your $$$$.
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Posted 07/10/2014   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorsRock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
kevin504 that still doe's not answer my question.
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Posted 07/10/2014   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you do not know your stuff you will be eaten alive in the stamping arena.

It takes a huge amount of time and effort to have the personal experience base to make a call on rare stamps with no certificate and that is if you can handle the stamp in person.

Even in my specialist area I would want a certificate on a rare stamp because the rare stamps are worth nothing because they do not have one.

Sadly there is more horrible reasons why stamps do not have certificates.
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Posted 07/10/2014   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ErrorsRock...You said you read the thread that was linked
to by wt1.....
That should answer your question.
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Posted 07/10/2014   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorsRock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK I agree with all of the above comments, but if this stamp was to get a certificate and be proven as a Scott 189 double transfer, what do you think it would be valued at?
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Posted 07/10/2014   8:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Methinks thou protest too much - almost like CoinWatcher did. Is this him?
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Posted 07/10/2014   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think anyone can accurately answer the question "what would it be worth" ... should it prove genuine, as there is nothing to compare it to as there are no previous buy/sell listings to judge it. It would be worth what a buyer and seller could agree upon in terms of price.

Personally, for a stamp this old it would be a stretch for me to imagine that this is the only one found in more than a century, so I'm not convinced it's worth anything near what the seller is asking. But that's only my opinion.
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