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Cancels Can Be More Rare Than You Think.....example

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Posted 04/08/2018   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Halifax,NS- 1873 Cover, Duplex cancel, to Cape Breton, NS......3cent 37b SQ




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Posted 04/08/2018   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jimjung, here is the machine that applies the Straight Jack Flag cancels.


Renden..I believe the pictures of the old post office below is where your stamp was canceled in Halifax Nova Scotia.1741 Hollis Street.

It took from 1861/01/01 to 1868/12/31 to complete the building.


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Posted 04/08/2018   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Robert.....I see that you are developing architectural interests - !!

René


tomorrow I will show an old "stampless" cover with nice cancel , from my father's collection
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Posted 04/08/2018   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking forward to seeing it Rene.

This is my oldest stampless cover..Not Canadian, but still old..it is 1828

Robert



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Posted 04/09/2018   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I took so much time to post this Cover, Robert. I had to search a little and think I found it.
From Wikipedia:
Lanark County is a county located in the Canadian province of Ontario. Its county seat is Perth, which was first settled in 1816.[2] Most European settlements of the county began in 1816, when Drummond, Beckwith and Bathurst townships were named and initially surveyed. The county took its name from the town of Lanark in Scotland.




From Canada Post Offices 1755/1895, F W Campbell, which shows 1) post office of Perth (Lanark, Ontario) 1816 and of same page we see a Cancel of 1829 from PERTH, quite similar to the cancel on my cover. Could not find a pic of P.O.






Location of Lanark County, Eastern Ontario
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Edited by Renden - 04/09/2018 11:38 am
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Posted 04/10/2018   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Renden...Here is a little more about your cancel...
Wonderful cover my friend.

Robert

The First Post Offices

A post office called Perth Upon Tay was established right away in 1816 with the man in charge of the settlement for the government, Daniel Daverne, as post master. When Daverne absconded with funds, which were in his care, he was replaced. Perth-Upon-Tay now became simply Perth. A letter by Taylor in the Ontario Archives of P. Robinson, Commissioner of Crown Lands, York, written on January 31, 1831, is postmarked with a small double circle broken by Perth with the date written in red. In 1837 Francis Allan took over as crown lands agent and postmaster in Perth.

In the spring of 1821 Alexander Ferguson opened the second store in Lanark Village and the same year completed a grist mill. The next year the Lanark Post Office was opened with J.A. Murdock as post master. He was replaced in 1835 by John Hall who was to be postmaster into the 1850's
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Posted 04/10/2018   6:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Robert (wert)....so happy to hear your impressions and history on the cover, after my 2 hour research to be sure we were not in England, or Australia !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was lucky to have that Campbell reference book and comparable Cancel.

If you like this Stampless cover with this nice Perth 1832 Cancel, it will be my pleasure to mail it to you and to be safeguarded in your collection of Ontario covers. I only care for New Brunswick covers !

René
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Posted 04/10/2018   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rene..

I checked Australia and only found St Georges Terrace building in Perth Australia in 1835..See building picture below.



Now having said that, Perth, office name (Stratford, Ontario) was built in 1835-10-06..Still NOT as early as your cover...The post master was John Corry Wilson Daly who became post master the same date and onther postmaster took over in 1858-03-11.

I would love to spend more time investigating this cover.

BTW..The only way I would except this cover, is if I can find some N.B. covers to trade with you my friend.

And it has to be an Ontario cover.

Robert
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We shall do that, my friend Robert...............a "cover trade" !! Yours will be leaving Thursday a.m. Booked for the day tomorrow.
Enjoy !!

René
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Posted 04/11/2018   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just wanted to say I've really enjoyed this thread. I'm thrilled to see you guys being interested in the postmarks and the aspect of postal history. Lots of nice covers as well, yours are very nice Rene! I'm waiting to find some Canadian postmarks in a giveaway from a friend in NB, maybe some interesting postmarks in there. Thanks for starting the thread, Robert.
Jon
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Posted 04/11/2018   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'm thrilled to see you guys being interested in the postmarks and the aspect of postal history.


You are absolutely right Blaamand. So may collectors are interested in getting the best mint stamp and can you imagine if every collector thought that way..You, me and every other collector would have the EXACT same collection..How boring would that be.

Now we all know (and want one to) a Scott 32 with laid paper is extremely rare..I believe there are only 3 of them..Now imagine this, lets say the original post with the "Coulson" cancel on an 1898 Map stamp ends up being the only one in existence, how rare would you consider it...?

Cancels and used stamps and postal history is all part of stamp collecting.

Robert

Rene..If I cant find suitable N.B. covers, we will take about what I should pay you for the cover.
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This is not a rare cancel, but the way it is positioned on this stamp makes it an interesting image. Could not resist paying 1$ for it
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Posted 04/13/2018   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This cancel appears to have been corrected (Feb 3 with a 4 added. Are these common? Any one have seen similar one, or can offer an explanation?
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Posted 04/13/2018   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert

Quote:
Rene..If I can't find suitable N.B. covers, we will take about what I should pay you for the cover.


Robert, I have plenty of NB covers so any cover is nice to own and it does not have to be $$$$$$$

Thanks Robert
René
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Posted 04/13/2018   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steve123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice presentation and food for thought!
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