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I Have This Lincoln Scotts 98 Or A33 With Interesting Post Marks

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Posted 01/10/2022   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dan Townsend to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone;
I have this Lincoln 98 and it has some interesting post marks and borders.
It looks almost like a sun beams if anyone has a opinion let me know.
and maybe a place of origin would be nice.
Also this stamps seems to also have very small borders, compared to a lot of stamps I have seen, maybe re cut I'm guessing.I did a border check on the second picture to compare the perforations it looks pretty good I think, you can be the judge.I switched or reversed on the #2 pic and the border to see a difference.
Thanks for looking.
Dan


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Posted 01/10/2022   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paris Exhibition to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dan,

Nice. I have never seen a red cancellation like that. Stars, yes, but a red sun, no.
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Posted 01/10/2022   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Di-38
WATERBURY CT ?

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Posted 01/10/2022   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You Rod222 and Paris Ex
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Posted 01/10/2022   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You shall need to confirm
I am only a part time US collector
Source Billigs Philatelic Handbook Volume lV
1952
Scarcity of Pmk = ?
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Posted 01/10/2022   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Below is a link to the Cole bible on these postmarks. It looks like a possible match to New Orleans GEN-92 (see page 50).

https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.n...okmarked.pdf
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Posted 01/10/2022   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or use the largest online, free database of Fancy Cancels on Stamp Smarter https://stampsmarter.org/features/F...ls_Home.html
More info on Stamp Smarter
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/C...ct_NYFM.html
https://stampsmarter.org/features/NYFM_home.html

My first thought is a NYC Foreign Mail cancel since 15c was commonly used to mail to Europe. But NYCFM was started in 1870 and this stamp was issued two years earlier. Sometime in 1870, the new Bank Note 15c was issued; so there is a chance that the stamp above is a NYCFM cancel.
Don
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Posted 01/10/2022   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You Rogdcam;
It looks real close gen 90 95 and 96 look real close also .
My stamp seems more spread out not so tight but that's most likely because of pushing off of the stamper .
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Posted 01/10/2022   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dan,
Clarification please.
Black vs red cancel?
Is the first image a b&W scan or is the second image hand-colorized to emphasize the cancel, or what?
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Posted 01/10/2022   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You John it would help like you said .
The second image is just colorized red to help see the image better. The problem Im seeing, the cancels of the New Orleans flower burst were done in 1873 through 1897 and this stamp was made in 1868 "5 to 9" years difference so I don't know yet for sure.Will look at the info 51Studebaker gave me and see if its NYCFM.
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Posted 01/10/2022   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok just checked out this site 51 Studebaker told me about and found out this one cancel looks and sized about the same as this cancel of mine.The pointed design or star look and is about 19mm large.The only thing its two years older than my cancel.Here are a couple of pictures I got off that site.
Hard to really tell if the other points are the same but two really looks like the same points in the star.
The only problem is my star cancels has room for at least 7 points , the NYCFM cancels are only 6 points
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/C...ct_NYFM.html
https://stampsmarter.org/features/NYFM_home.html




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Posted 01/10/2022   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am counting 8 'petals' on this flower.
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Posted 01/10/2022   9:29 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The rosette cancel could also be one of a number of the Waterbury, CT cancels as well. Here are some from the Paul C. Rohloff book:






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Posted 01/10/2022   11:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that is great;
Now its even more confusing but I think were getting some where.
Now all we need is a year made ,with these Waterbury constellations then were getting some were .Thanks Orstampman and Mootermutt987.
As I see it I think it could be p7 p8 or p24.I think if I was a betting man I would think p7 because the different sizes of the petals and the other cancels are almost the same size also the different gaping between the petals is likely p7 I guess. .
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Posted 01/10/2022   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello I'm back I looked up Waterbury Cancellations and found a date 1861 to 1870 that hits that mark.
But I don't know if this matters but they listed these cancels with 1cent to 3 cent stamps and would they but this cancel on a 15 cent stamp? I don't know how that works with a cancel?
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Posted 01/11/2022   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is Skinner-Eno to look through:

https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.n...okmarked.pdf
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